How do you know if you are in the matrix?

In fact, we were talking before this conversation started, what are we gonna talk about? And I said, "Because me and you can go on very many magical adventures, and let's try and keep it within the realms of something that you guys listening to can perhaps take something out and resonate with." But I'm sure that this is gonna be a magical conversation, so please kind of keep with it everybody as we welcome Eli, who started the Shine Seminars.

You know? Just very grounded, and go back to- You know, talking about things that, uh, in, in essence it's kind of sovereignty. Mm-hmm. Yeah? So I really felt like everyone was in fear. There was a lot of fear and low vibes and people were, uh, kind of in a space of not really knowing what was gonna happen, being isolated and lost.

And if we can't control that, how do we control ourselves? So I was like, we really need to get together and have a conversation about how we can stand up in our own power. So that was the first thing and the second thing was really just about health and nutrition. Um, and it was like, you know, there was, there's a lot of chemicals, a lot of laboratories and, you know, PPE and all this kind of, you know, masking up and injections obviously blah, blah, blah.

And, and I also thought about, you know, about people who had time on their hands, wanted to be more contemplative, spending time with themselves, being mindful, doing things that made them feel good by themselves. So kind of, you know, really and truly a kind of spiritual practice, if you wanna call it that, but being more in tune with themselves.

So that was in May, and I tried to get a venue and I couldn't get a venue. I just couldn't do it, and I was just like, I just wanna do this day where we come together and we talk about what we wanna talk about. Because I kept hearing these stories about this, this huge great machine that was coming in through the media, and I wanted to talk about and be around people who didn't feel like that, weren't buying into that, who wanted to be, um, you know, sovereign in themselves.

I knew our conversa- Archonic ... our, our con- I know where our conversation is going. You ca- ca- you carry on. So, so it was... There was a lot of programs running, yeah. Do you remember? There was... Lots of people were running programs. And I'll give you an example. I couldn't find a venue, right? Yeah. And I was fi- and they were like, "No, we're not doing it.

We can't do it. You know, we're not allowed to gather." There was one venue said, "I'd love to do it," and they, they knew what I was trying to do, but they said, "We're not gonna let you do it." And I was like, "Why not?" And they said, "There might be a plant in the audience who, who snitches on us that we're having a gathering."

And I was like, "Oh no, this is freaking me out." It's like I found somebody who, who'll actually put the event on, but they're afraid that there's gonna be like some sort of, you know, spy in the audience who's gonna ring up the, ring up the medical police and say, "Oi." You know? So, so, you know, it was... And, and then I did find somebody who had some land, and I'm really good friends with that lady, and she, um...

I, I, I don't know... Well, I do know why he pulled out, but I can't- He had issues. He had issues. And he, and he... And, and this was a private piece of land, and, and Marie, who I love to bits, has still, still got that piece of land, and she has gatherings on that land. And then I, I, uh... What was his name? Oh, yeah, Boris Johnson.

Yeah, that's it. I forgot he even existed. Have you? Is that- Yeah, I know. I know, it's just random. Um- He, he... 'Cause a, a lot of that narrative was about betrayal, wasn't it? He... The government kept betraying us. They'd go, "Oh, we're gonna- we're, we're gonna let you do this," and then they'd go, "Oh, you're not doing it."

It was about 1,200 quid for that day. Mm-hmm. And I thought, "I'm just gonna put my money where my mouth is. I don't care if I make money or not. I want this event." And it was like I was giving birth to something really magical, but it was gonna, it was gonna be a serious effort to do it. And, um, I sold 55 tickets in 10 days.

Wow. I turned up- And it w- we were all over the place. And the, and the lineup, Jo, was amazing. It was absolutely amazing. It was the Bards of Avalon were there. Oh, yes. Yeah. B- me and David, yeah. Yeah, they were amazing. Um, Michael Tingle was there, who does Qigong. Yeah. Yeah. Carly Spell was there. Carly. Yeah, yeah.

I didn't know any of them, and I just went... I, I was just literally in this space, and I just went, "You are all gods. You are all gods," like this. And they were just like, "What's this guy saying?" Yeah. And I, and I was just like, "We are all amazing, you know, and I thank you so much for being here. We're gonna have an incredible day.

Let's just have an amazing day just for us," you know. And the, the whole day was just absolutely electric. And I came away from it, I learnt so much. I learnt so much about me from all the speakers, from the people, and I thought, "You know what? I've actually done something here, and I'm gonna carry on doing it."

Not, not another soul. There was just me, like, um Yeah ... like, especially with my, you know, my PhD is in genetic vaccines, so I was telling people not to get it, but I didn't find... I didn't have any data, I didn't have any studies, I didn't find anybody else. I was literally thinking I was going crazy, but then worked on myself, and I think a lot of people during that time, um, became very isolated in...

And, and I'd done some of that work before, um, but yeah, that was, like, really deep stuff. And I think it's... You know what? You know, I think it stood us in very good stead for all this stuff now, because the... To my mind, they've just ramped up the fear,

and we're less fearful now than we ever were. And but what I have still found, and I don't know what you think about this, we have to get together and start, you know, talking about solutions and about the real deep things. We're gonna have a talk about archons. We'll bring that in. Um- Yeah ... because, you know, a lot of people as well on this journey have got a little bit stuck, I feel, that are just- Mm-hmm

keep going down the next rabbit hole. So okay, it's not the government. Now it's, now it's not the nations, and now it's the 13 families, and they just keep going down these rabbit holes, and it's like- Mm ... well, you'll never find an end to the rabbit hole, because there's been so many civilizations on top of each other.

This is it. "This is what... This is it." So, you know, I, I, I've understood the kind of the notion of what they're trying to do. Um, the, it is their last fling. Um, and I think that, um, a lot of, a lot of kind of... I mean, I don't wanna get into the, the w- the realm of prophecies really, but there definitely seems to be an awakening, a mass awakening inside people.

It's like the whole fucking system is designed- ... to, to actually destroy us from birth. Yeah. You know? I mean, it... You should create- But the thing is, which is true. You know? Well, look at us, like we're still alive. Yeah. And in fact, we're better than ever. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. This is what I keep telling to people.

Yeah. When you find out more, you can think it's depressing- Yeah ... and you're like, "Oh my God." So- No ... so what do you think happens to people- No, not at all ... when they realize that actually we're the creators of this reality, we're being tricked into creating stuff, and all the shitty things we see is us? Yeah.

We're doing it. Yeah. Well, that's a real, that's a real head, head spinner, isn't it? And it's find... It's very... People are gonna find that journey very difficult because that's a lot of responsibility to take on, isn't it? Or a few people then feel guilty, um, for kind of that's, that's the way that it works.

I, I say this and this... Well, let's get onto Archon territory, right? Mm. And I, I coined a

phrase yesterday, and you're the first person I've spoken to since I coined this phrase yesterday. Right, so you know that there's a consciousness field, and this is like the organic information. It's, it's the one that we, we belong to, and the Earth and all nature i- is in this field. But there's, there's one specifically for the Earth, 'cause if we understood everything about everything, it wouldn't be Earth.

Yesterday I coined a phrase- You've got the consciousness field, and you've got the unconsciousness field Mm. And the trick is, is most people have been tapping into the unconsciousness field unwittingly, tricked into it, poisoned into it, genetically engineered to it, you know, having these in your hands so you can make phone calls.

Mm. But this, this is all about this Archon matrix c- structure, which is the unconsciousness field, and that's what happened with these, this great awakening, is what we're saying is, is people are jumping, seeing that bit, and they're actually going into the consciousness field. Mm. Yeah, the... People... I... The, the...

I belong to the universe." Mm. "And I am, I am a little version of that big consciousness." Mm. And I think once you realize that, you put yourself into context. Yeah. And so that divine spark inside you m- keeps you positive because you know. It's like when I said at the first shine, you're all gods, 'cause we are.

Yeah. We, we're creator beings, and once people realize that we're creator beings, then they suddenly can start creating again. And, you know, uh, the 3D optics look really terrible, but actually, when you realize that, that the human... You know, I'm not saying all humans 'Cause I'm not saying that at all, but, uh, far from it.

Not the spiritual community necessarily, but the freedom community are going back and feeding the system again. And, and actually it's like all you, you... There's no point in fighting or being the resistance. Just withdraw your energy. It's really simple. All of it's, it's, it's really after our energy. Yeah.

It is putting up all of these psyops and little cults and little movements. I mean, the whole, like- The whole thing is they're orchestrated for y- to, for you to pay attention. It, it's costing you your energy. Now, it is important to know things, but we need to teach people how they can know things without becoming emotionally involved.

No. It doesn't matter how outraged you are and how- Mm ... right you are, you're literally feeding the beast. And the only way to get out of it, this is a f- this is a frequency war, this matrix is real, and every single time you give it your attention, you're feeding it. And the only way out of this is to s- is to starve it you know?

Yeah. And to lead people out of this pathway. And, you know, I... When, when, when I first w- obviously found people after 18 months, started talking about this a great, great awakening, and I didn't know what on earth they were talking about. The first journey I went on really was about, I'd already started during that time detoxing my body.

And how do I know it? Because I can remember it, because there's a whole field of information. And I'm trying to deliberately avoid books, especially 3D books, because we've all been misled. So- It's very important. So you said a w- you said a word, the knowing, the gnosis. You've spoke about the archons. So where did you discover kind of the Gnostic texts and, and what they said?

'Cause I, I only found out about them about two months ago, and realized I've been speaking about them for the last two years Mm-hmm ... and they're a thing. Well, the thing... To be quite honest with you, Jo, you've just mentioned two of the, the main precepts in the Gnostic texts. To be the observer, the, the above duality.

Our part of the sol- our part of the universe, let's put it that way, has moved above the galactic equator, right? So our part of the Milky Way, our solar system, if you wanna say that, has actually moved. If you can imagine the equat- or if you can imagine the, the, the, the, the actual, um, the skyline, yeah, as being the galactic equator, 'cause there is a galactic equator, and the Earth has been underneath That galactic equator.

I w- I was talking about this to somebody, and they said, "Well, the thing is, Eli, is that there are many, many suns all connecting at the moment, all transmitting their photonic light to each other, to our sun, and then to us." Yeah. And, and, and- That doesn't surprise me ... yeah. And I- I've always believed that the reason why they're dimming the sun, besides putting aluminum on the ground, is to actually stop the photonic light from our DNA activating.

And I've been going, "Oh, my God, there's something me- it's a new sun. It's a new sun." "It's a new sun." And I look more and more into the subject, and then I found out that there's this whole, this whole story about the fact that our, we're now moved above the galactic equator, which means we're receiving totally different new sunlight.

Yeah. And when I... And I was like, "I've got to talk about this." And I've done that talk twice. I've actually, I've gone and talked, uh, in a pub in Swindon. Mm-hmm. Uh, the, I think it's the Wive and Dowsers. And up in, um, Cheltenham, I gave a talk to about 100, 120 people. And I talked about this, um, both times. And I've g- you know, I, I s- I still would love to give that talk because it does, it makes sense.

But at the end of th- at, at the end of the Shine last year, I said, and I do this sometimes, I just go into this, like, space, and I just said, "And, and we are, we are cleansing s- the last seven generation from all the negative energy, and we are purging all that energy, and we are going to set forward a positive timeline for the next seven generations.

Yeah. I can, I can decode them quite quickly. Yeah. Um, but what I can say is that knowledge has come back at this time because it's meant to be here for this time. Yeah. It is so powerful, and it's got nothing to do with religion. Uh, it, it- This is really interesting, like, this keeps coming around to me all the time.

Now, there's b- different people working on different things. Ours is definitely all, all about these distortion fields. And I think- And as we asked him, is there anything in the text which talks about the work that we're doing with water, uh, and using and what we're doing specifically? And he says, "No, not specifically."

So I think there's something missing there or have been hidden from us about a prophecy about what we're gonna do, right? 'Cause I think if it's gonna be in the text, it's gonna be in those text. And there are other people doing other things, that's just the one I know about. But I feel that Kelly's work, because she's going into people's divine blueprint, and what I say to people is like the Akashic is like the Google record.

Mm. It... Everything, all our gifts were related to the Earth and here. Mm. And so w- I, and I don't listen to the Bible or anything, but I've, I heard that story as a child, which is very interesting. Mm. And to me, this is flooding back. Mm. trying to bring down this matrix. I know about the Archons, I know all about their history, when they were here, how long they've been here, and what all they're attached to.

I look at the buildings, it's like, how do I know this? Mm. I can only do it by remembering. Mm-hmm. Yeah, it's- And I think a lot of people are now remembering, and even on TikTok I'm seeing loads of people talking about this. They- they're researching because their hearts remember. Mm. It- it's- And then the downfall, sh- sorry, Archons, but you can't feed off our energy.

It's like the story... It's re- it's the story of Osiris, yeah? Because it's remembering. He got taken apart, all his members, all his arms and legs were cut off, and he was put back together. That's where we get the word remember from, yeah? So all we're doing is we're putting back what we really are. That's- that's- that's all we're doing, and it is, for me, it's real proof that we do belong to a super consciousness, and we- we do have this spark inside us.

Because like you say, how do you know all this stuff? If you haven't read about it, you just know it. It is a gnosis. The... I- I'll tell you something really interesting about the- the Gnostics. Mm. Every... The No- pe- the way it's been portrayed to us, there's two, there's two cosmologies that are, that are completely put to one side.

There- there's some incredible stories about the- the Namlulu who were humanity during that time. Um, and the other cosmology is the, is the Gnostics. They've both been sidelined in history, and- When Jesus was around, whether you believe he was here or not, but when that consciousness was brought down, um, everybody was a Gnostic.

Uh, completely wiped out, obviously. So for the first 300... From, from the year dot to 325, which is when the Treaty of Nicaea was, uh, was formed and, you know, all those people basically said, "None of this is the word of God," and they got rid of all the Gostic, the Gnostic Gospels at that time. Up until that time, everybody was shamanic All the Christians were shamanic, and they were all doing massive inner work, and they were able to emanate, which is what you're talking about.

They could just emanate things. They would just come into a space, focus, and just- Focus ... just make an incredible clockwork something or other, or make an incredible meal, or... We've been told that we've been primitive. We've been told that we've been a, a, a massively lesser version of ourselves, and actually we've been...

We were just going woof- Create, create, create, create ... woof, woof, woof. And they were like, "What are these beings? What are we gonna do? They, we can't, we can't go near them." There are still remnants of those people around. Um, and if you are, if you have compassion, and if you have a empathy... We've been told that compassion and empathy is, is a weakness.

It is our greatest ally. It is our great- it's our superpower. It's like love is the gun in our hand, and when they come near us... I'll, I'll tell you a quick story, just very quickly. Somebody I know, and I'll tell you another time, met Russell Brand, right? Yes. And this chap was telling me about meeting Russell Brand.

Yeah. And that's why Russell Brand is now, you know, becoming a born again Christian, because he's, he's actually fighting with himself. There's a consciousness in there that is breaking through, um, because obviously he's... You know, he, he is what he is. Yeah. But when we show our true compassion and our true empathy, and we use the organ of the heart, because it...

Even, even those that are kind of

a bit, they're not quite there yet, everybody has their space, but there are so many more people who are moving into being in compassion for each other, moving into wanting to create something new. A lot of the events I see this year have got lots of elements of harmony and peace, and true, not, not psyop, not AstroTurf- Yeah

but actual true grounded people who just want to be, you know, within, in that divine space. And, uh, you know, it- we, we, we are on that journey of, of, of, of actually emanating this, this compassion and this empathy. It's, it's very powerful. That film, uh, Disclosure Day- Mm-hmm ... I went to see that. Yeah? And it was really funny, 'cause everyone was like, "Oh, it's fucking blah, blah, blah, blah."

And I was like, that's real disclosure. That's the real disclosure. Nipped it. Yeah. Yeah, and the fact that Emily Blunt's character, she... When she sees the bird. Have you seen it? Did you watch it? No. You didn't. So she... The bird comes in to the, um, to, on the table, and she, she has this... It's like ch. It's like, it's like the birds in, in the Disney films.

You know, 'cause he, he is a... What's the word? He is a grifter, so. He is a complete grifter, isn't he? He... Yeah. Yeah, he is. So, so while, while me and Kelly were in Bosnia, because of the power of the land, it really helped un- unlock things, and this is a clue to, to people listening here. You won't unlock your memories so you know from your experience what's happened by watching podcasts sat in your house.

It's just not natural environment. Mm. There isn't... The, the field isn't there unless you've done something to bring it in, which we do, and this is, a lot of our work is about this. So you have to get out in nature until you figure out how to bring nature into you. So these are, these boxes, these synthetic boxes, you will be picking up information from the unconsciousness field, from the programming of the matrix, right?

Mm. And says, "I can't understand why Annunaki with all their amazing equipment and ships would come here and then force humans to mine gold." Mm. That doesn't make sense because they, they could have at least, like, make their own version of a JCB, right? Doesn't make any sense. What makes more sense is that we are fractals of the earth and creators with the earth and all the, you know, all, all the life forms here, that we can literally make things with our hands, with our frequency, with us.

And instead of coming to look, the way that I describe it, it's like when the English went to Benidorm. Hmm. So it was Benidorm, but then they put the fish and chip shops and the karaoke bars. It's not Benidorm anymore, right? Y- it's not an experience of Benidorm. So the Grays came and liked the inner earth, and now they're there taking over that space.

And they've been there for a long time. The Anunnaki were like, "Ooh, we can get these humans to make stuff for us. Uh, but what we have to do is we have to trick people into creating it." So this is exactly what they've done and what they continue to do by foreshadowing, is programming basically. Mm. That they only have to tell us so that we then make it.

Well, really and truly all we need to do is be aware of it Yeah, just notice it It... E- even that in itself, just the awareness of what's happening- Yeah ... is a, is a, is a line in the sand. Yeah. It's a no. It's a hard palm to the face. It's a hard no. Hard no from me, line. You... But you're right, but when you become conscious rather than it being a program, you've now taken it out of your energy, out of your consciousness field, it's now in the consciousness field.

Yeah. But that isn't the way our reality works. Hmm. Yeah, no, it, it... We, we have to become who we are. Yeah. All, all we gotta really do is stand up and be who we are. Um, Joseph Campbell said something, and I do say it to people a lot, "Follow your bliss." If you have a passion, if you're really, really into felting, right, do the best felting you can possibly do.

If you're really, really in, into, into whittling, be the best whittler. If you're, if you're a hearth keeper, if you're a gardener, if you're, you know, if you, if you wanna bash bits of metal, be the best thing that you can possibly. If you follow your passion and you follow your bliss, that space in the consciousness has been taken up by your passion and your love for that thing, which means that nothing's in that space.

This is why, um- This is why they're throwing the kitchen sink at us Yeah, because it's- They've got a choice ... you know you were talking about the ti- you know you were talking about timelines before, and I, I was thinking about this, and it only just occurred to me, right? That if that was, if that was like, um, when they found this jar, 300, if we, if, if people are right and actually 1,000 years have been added onto the calendar, and we're only just 1,000 now, then if you think about it, like, it's very condensed.

Yes. It's not about, it's not about- Yeah, yeah ... learning, about the- Yeah ... the demiurge and the pleroma. The, if you actually get into it, it's about working on yourself and actually tuning yourself to be a sacred geometry, you know, creator. Exactly. And, and that is extraordinary. And that's why they did, that's why Christianity is being so battered, because they don't even want the last vestiges of Christianity.

union. I don't just mean them coming together. I mean within yourself. You know, you, you can do incredible things. And, um, it's, i- it's, it's an extraordinary time to be living because- It's, it... We're like the bow of the ship, Jo. You know, all the people that we're around, all the, all the people who come, who talk to us or listen to us or we're with, we're the bow of the ship.

And I've always said that there are people out there who are just, like, extraordinary people living ordinary lives who know. They just know. And they, they, they're, they're work- they're all trying to work it out. They're all trying to work it out, but they're on that journey, and they're all questioning it.

And I was saying to people, "Do you actually know what that means?" Now, I know what that means. Mm. And, and D does not stand for dimension, it stands for density. Mm-hmm. And all we're doing is moving up the densities. So the ascension pro- path is about our consciousness moving up. You know, if people wanna take off and start flying away, then that's their version, but actually it's about consciousness raising.

Mm-hmm. Yeah? Because- Yeah ... once you, once you get into the 5D space, they can't exist. That's exactly right. Yeah. Exactly right. Yeah. The 4D... And you can see- Yeah ... like, in the whole, like, spiritual tra- So I did this series on spiritual traps, like, as you wake up. Yeah. Like, you know, you're attaching yourself to, like, archangels, which are archons, uh, entities- Yeah

and all this kind of stuff, and it's not very popular. It's like, you know, like, say, why, why do you need chakras? Where, where are they... And now we've got new chak- chakras invented. You don't need it. You just need your soul and your heart. That's all you need, and that, that's all we need, and it's much simpler than what's been, been told.

Unless you go in the astral. That's not, simply not true. Mm. We... In the work that we do, we, we have seers. I'm a seer. I don't need to go in the astral to see. Why would you only need to do that? So there's all this sprinkling of stuff as people wake up, but I agree with you, people are way more advanced than we're seeing.

And I've got another question to ask you, and, and, and I think it's important for the people listening who think that what we're saying is when the government comes down, we're just gonna go, "Oh, peace and love. We're all hippies." We don't mean that, right? No, not at all. We, we mean... Well, uh, I don't know what you mean by our...

They're not doing it to harm humanity. Their intention is noble, but they've been misled, and this is... Well, how have they been misled? It's not just because they've been brainwashed into stuff. They've been disconnected from human consciousness, and they've been fed a load of stuff from the matrix or the unconsciousness field.

So the way out of this is to raise consciousness of all humanity. Not judgment, you're going, "But not police, and not pedophiles, and not this, not..." Because how are you going to stop it? It's a program, and the only way you're gonna stop the program or to stop this effect is to stop the program, basically. So we have to raise consciousness of everybody to get out of this, or you're gonna have gallows and gallows and gallows for miles and miles, right?

Yes. You know? Uh, you know, so we're part of the planet. Yeah. So it's, it's, um... I mean, I fi- I fi- I find it amazing that- Every single day, I mean, I go on social media quite a lot, and I don't post that much, but I do, I do watch it because I, I like to, I like to just get a little bit of a taste of what's happening.

They're sudden- they are questioning themselves. Yeah. Y- you know, they really are, and, and that's gonna burst at some point. They, they- It, it's going... Yeah ... 100%. This isn't like the system before was so, um, hidden and so invisible, and all the, all the archonic structures were ticking along, and everybody could fit into their box, and now there's so much craziness going on.

You know, I'm sure there's loads of policemen, judges, nurses, all those people in the institutions which are the archonic structures, they are full of those programs. They are looking at themselves and they're going, "Oh my God, this doesn't feel right to me." Yeah. This is, this is what the jabs were doing.

This is all about energy harvesting from children. Yeah. It's, it's an archonic program, and, you know, it's, it's, it's just, it's just everywhere, right? Because it... Because children have so much life force energy. Their bio field is enormous. Um, this is why they're being targeted. It's not because these people fancy children.

Mm. It is, it's all about energy. Yes. And, you know, we c- we can... And, and my favorite thing is actually to watch Pedophile Hunters. I love them. They're, they're amazing. Yeah. And these are ordinary people that have decided the police aren't doing anything, the judges aren't doing anything, blah, blah, blah. What we're gonna do, we're gonna expose them.

I know what's happening, and I, I can't stand the energy anymore." And we're sort of saying- We need more of you in there. That's what we need. We need the sys- Mm ... the people in the system, the humanity in the system cleansing, um, so it can change, you know, from the inside out. Because it's not gonna just be wiped out tomorrow by an EBS system.

I'm not gonna go into it, 'cause it is personal. But I'm finding that there are people in the system who are giving me little clues. They're giving me the answers. They know that they can't outwardly go, "Eli, this is the answer to what this situation is. You... This is your exit strategy." But they're saying it.

They're saying it at the end of a sentence, or they're saying it under their breath, or they're just going, "Look over there, everyone," and they're going, "Eli, it's this." Yeah? They're actually giving me... I had someone the other day on the phone. I, I've got quite a complicated thing going on. And, um, and she, and she just said to me, "Oh, well, what, what we can do..."

But she managed to give me the clue, because she knows in her heart of hearts I'm a good guy, I'm doing right, and- Yeah. It's- ... I'm being attacked by the system, and she's giving me my way out. And there's tons of that going on. There's tons of that. There's tons of that. And that's beautiful, isn't it? Yeah.

That's the only way we're gonna do it. It's extraordinary. It's not like you're like... You know, s- some of the negative stuff that I'm hitting is like, "Oh, well, if you, if you've had your jabs, that's it. You're all screwed. You're all gonna die, and that's it. You, you're stupid." And we have to work with humanity.

I, I thought, "I'm gonna investigate this," because if that's true, it makes the get out a lot easier, right? Because they're just- Mm ... walking meat suits. But actually, it's not true. The va- the vast majority of people you see in your ordinary life, everyone's got a soul. They... Everyone's been disconnected.

However, when you look on the world stage, it's a, it's a slightly different, slightly different question. And so, you know, w- when people are saying to me, "Oh, you know, this, that, and the other politician's doing this, that, and the other," or whatever, I'm like, "Look, when I see a whole line of humans there with human souls, then I might start paying attention."

One of the... In the An- Annunaki story, there is tons and tons of amazing stories that have been translated and interpreted, and different versions of loads, loads of it. Mm. Absolutely tons and tons of it, and they're incredible little stories. Um, lots of them are in the University of Pennsylvania. Mm-hmm.

You know, it, it's just a little thing- Yeah. ... but there's tons of that. There's tons, there's tons of that. Tons of that stuff. Yeah, tons of that. It, it, it makes a lot, it makes a lot of sense that- It does, yeah ... you know, it, it... and also everything in terms of energy becomes a fractal, so what we're seeing about mass migration and people moving around the place and people going to places and changing it and colonizing it rather than being of it, um, what we're seeing in the collective is exactly what's been happening for, like, thousands and millions of years actually, right?

I don't know if I've told you this yet, Eli. Um, and perhaps me and Kelly will talk about it when we come down to the Shine Festival. Um, but- Did you know now there's... I know that human consciousness, we can clear and ma- and harmonize basically. Not clear, right? Harmonize what's being sprayed in the sky. I'm gonna be very careful about what I say, 'cause I want this to go onto YouTube.

There's now an app, and if you go to coherentsky.com, you can run it, and it clears the distortions in the sky. Mm. Now, I helped bring this information, 'cause I was working with a Swiss-Italian team, and I got 7- 60 people, 60, 70 people across the UK to test it since about April. So if you've been noticing a difference in the weather, there is a reason for that, and it's not the white hats.

We're, we're the magical people . Magical people, yeah. So, um- Yeah. That is why- So- ... you're seeing a change in, in the, in the weather, and I believe this is gonna have such a shift for humanity. Because the more... If everyone starts using this, um, in their area, and keeps, you know, what's been going on, more of these light codes can come in.

Now, very interestingly, I got a group of community leaders together to say, "I'm gonna give you this information so we all can share it, right? So it isn't one person. No o- one person's the face of it, because it won't get shut down then." But I was very careful about security. I only wanted people there that I knew, yeah, right?

so, so you can get it on your phone, and I'll just, um... Let's have a look. It is. It's called coherentsky.org/coherent-sky. It's free. You need to get a Holotag, it's called. And, and so your device, you need to register it. You know, well, not register it on... It has to know it's you, right? Just in case we get some infiltrators, not we, the guys who have done this, and, uh, your phone is, you know, hacking it or whatever, it needs to be able to be switched off.

Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. It'll run for three hours. Um, if you do it and you're, like, 200 meters down the road, we're starting to create a grid. By the way, as soon as you run it, you can just carry on using your phone. You don't need to worry about anything. It is looking for your location in order to put a grid point.

And basically, these, these phones which, um, have electromagnetic frequencies are being tuned to be electromagnetic frequencies that make the, um- Particles harmonized. And when they're harmonized, they're not... In disharmony, they're going... They've got the right, uh, field, the right, um, flow and harmonics. Mm. So guys, try this.

So that is the non-physical, and we, we're in a world now where what, you know, information is carried through these things on the airwaves. So it's actually right in front of our faces that data can go through the air. Yeah. So if data can go through the air, then our thoughts can go through the air. Yeah.

It, it, it is really simple. It- Yeah ... it's so in your face now that we can use our consciousness, and by picking up your phone on that app and actually doing that with the intention of doing that, you're creating a grid point, 100%. I get that. Complete. And- Yeah ... what... And when I did it the first time, I could feel the frequency go through me, and you know what?

Um, uh, you know, the, the violence, uh, and is, is a, is a low density thing, but when the white man first went to America, um, the, the Indians were like, "They're not a problem. They don't even know how to change the weather." It's true. Yeah. Uh, and unfortunately, that lower density thing, it does... We are, we, we are on the planet, and if you've got a whole load of people who are intending in- in- intentionally wanting to destroy things, they will.

Uh, I think we- we- we're all on that path. I don't think that any one of us is, is doing less or more than another. I think we're all just doing what we're doing, you know? And I will say that I've, I've, I've done some really interesting things just that... Like you, like you've just said, you create a container and you don't want people...

Real magic is created inside containers that the outside world doesn't have a say in, and that don't know about. And I've done some work which I will never talk about because it was so powerful that if I tell anybody, it'll break it. Yeah. Uh, yeah, and because it is a consciousness thing. But I'll tell you one thing I did do, which is, which is really, really beautiful.

Uh-huh. And they were all buddleias. They were all buddleia seeds. Yeah? 'Cause buddleia seeds, not only are they for bur- for butterflies, mainly butterflies, but bees as well, but they break down masonry. Buddleias break up- ... masonry, right? So we were going round the southwest of England with these little seed balls, and intentionally going there and going, "We are, we are enabling nature to- Yeah

take back these artificial grid points." Yeah. 'Cause they're artificial grid points, right? Yeah, they're artificial grid points, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And, uh, and it was brilliant, and we were driving along the road, we go, "Oh, there's one over there." We'd just get out of the car, we'd run up a bloody hill, and we'd just pour the...

so that they, so that they actually preserve the seeds. But when it rains- Yeah ... they, they'll actually come out. So they can sit there for days, and days, and days, and months without actually germinating. Until the time. Yeah, until there's a time. Yeah, I've seen those. I, I was gonna ... You know, I was thinking about making some of those.

I've just remembered I actually dug a load of clay out my garden, left it for about a year, and then I've only just remembered, like about, about five days ago, I just thought, "I don't know why I've got this clay. Let me just dig it back into the ground." And I've just realized, you've just reminded me- Yeah

what the hell I dug it for in the first place. Yeah. It's a great thing. That's ... I tell you, that is. Do you know when we come to the Shine Festival, I don't ... We, we, we're doing two talks. Kelly's doing the stuff on kind of her healing modality, which is all connected to the earth. Yeah. And then we're doing one on crystal water.

The planet. That's amazing. That, that's big work. It's big work. It's big work. And we've figured out... So we've done a lot of them by hand, and, um, well, I'd say, pfft, 30, 40,000 by hand at least, maybe even double that. The other stuff is etheric stuff, but we've figured out, right, we've remembered, sorry, how to, let's say, a whole mountain, like, i- th- they haven't just given us quartz crystal, right?

It's hard work to be out of phase of this massive planet, isn't it? Mm. Yeah. Oh, 100%. E- e- even what I've seen recently, which I've never seen before, and tell me if I'm wrong, and there is that lawyer guy who's clearing up those, the canals in London, who's being taken to court. Oh. But I'm actually seeing people litter picking just everywhere.

Yeah. In the last... Literally in the last two weeks, I've seen five or six people go around. Now, that is being in harmony with the land. That's going back to the land. That's actually, that is ta- on a very, very basic level, that is taking back the matrix distortion. Remo- litter picking is, is- Litter picking is removing the matrix distortion.

She said, "Yeah, it's really nice, innit?" And I just walked off. I was just like, that's just awesome, you know? And, and not only that, she was shining her light. She was embody- Yeah, showing other people ... she was embodying it, you know? And, and e- i- that's one of the things that, you know, I say at the Shine when, when people ask me about the Shine, is like, if you embody, you know, and you do shine your light, it is infectious.

People, people resonate with you, and they go away and they do similar things. So you know, you've gotta kind of embody it. And, uh, I mean, you've got your own challenges, but if you are shining your light and people see it, they love it. They, they, they go- I- is there magic... So, so this grid work- Yeah ... group that, um- kind of like me and Kelly started it, but it has grown.

Wow. They're going into like the Houses of Parliament and things like this. Yeah. And this just f- just feels like we all met up, like there's 80 people in our core team, but I'd say there's at least 300 around the world like going to lots of places. And it's just... We've o- we've obviously decided to do this or done this before because it's just way too easy.

The people are way too, you know, powerful- Yeah ... for this all just to be a coincidence. And if we're doing it, what don't I know about? 'Cause I don't know everything, do I? Well- So there's gonna be versions of us everywhere- Everywhere ... doing this stuff. I'll, I'll tell you a quick one, Jo. We did, we did a, a mass meditation with Rory Duff, funnily enough.

And I told her. And I said, "What are you doing?" And she said, "Oh, I'm just awakening the dragon energy." And I was just like, "What?" And, and, and literally she just said that, and I was just like... And I said, "So what do you do?" And she said, "That's all I do. I just walk the land waking up the dragon energy." And I was just like, wow.

She- And it was just amazing. You know? It's amazing, isn't it? She was just waking up the land. She was waking up- Waking up the land ... that energy. She was just waking up... And that's all she does. She just goes to different places. And I was just like, how many other people are doing that? Can you imagine? But you, yeah, there's probably loads and loads and loads of people doing that- There's loads of-

that we, that we, that we'll never know about, and then- Well, that we'll never know about ... and- And then in 100 years time or something, we'll write all the stories about what we all did, and then the rest of humanity that were doing their bit will go- Mm ... "Well, my... You know?" Mm. "Uh, we were doing this at this time."

the way... I mean, you can look at it as as many different leve- lev- levels, Guy, and I'm not necessarily saying, right, there's gonna be a dragon fly over tomorrow, but there's a reason why the original English flag is a dragon, and so is- Mm ... the Welsh flag, and why this whole isle looks like a dragon. Yeah. You can think about it in terms of, like, a consciousness field of the people of this land, and that's why St.

George came and killed the dragon. Yeah. And it is all about control, you know? And, and the dragon may be representing the consciousness here. Or you can think about them as, like, you know, consciousness beings. W- but either way, the dragon's important, otherwise they wouldn't keep writing it everywhere. Well, they're just really...

If you actually look at... Go to Google Earth, it looks like a dragon. Yeah. Mallorca looks like a dragon. There's a place called... There's an island there called Dragonera- Which, which, which is the Dragon Island. And there's also some caves there called, um, Cava Draka, which is the Dragon Caves. And the whole...

And the energy there is nuts. I mean, if you get a chance to go, Jo, it is absolutely nuts. There's lots of Mary energy there, lots of Magdalene energy there. Mm. It's really, really powerful. And it's, it's actually... I'm sure this is one of the reasons why Bosnia calls you so much, um, because the UK is cabal central.

Yeah. It's so, it's so f- so, like- It's hard work here ... you're in Dodge City, right? Do you know what I mean? You are in Dodge. Perfect. Just deal with it, all right? And that's- Yeah. ... you know, the, the, the great- the, the, the most experienced soldiers are sent to the greatest and hardest wars, Jo. Right? Okay. Do you see what I'm saying?

any sort of, like, intimidation, and you've got control. You know, it's just... You know, I, I, I... It's like they've got traffic lights, they've got traffic lights for the bikes now, you know? It's like- ... what, what, what level of control do they need? They're just really going for it, aren't they? It's just like we- they're just gonna squash us into a little box.

Yeah. It's a very, very ama- amazing place. Um, yeah. There's, there's- I think it's one of the most natural places. I, I don't believe Egypt was a space, it was an era, and that's why there's pyramids all over the planet. I think they were there to distort the energy here. They're not facing our true north.

They're not... Mm. They were there for control as, as, as was Tartaria. So a lot... all of these civilizations, right? But now we're breaking through all of this stuff. Mm. Um, there is only the Earth and, and living matter, you know, living creatures and beings here. There's nothing else. No. Nothing else is...

Everything else is superficial compared with that, right? Yeah. And it's, and it is the most powerful thing. It's just we haven't seen it, 'cause we've been brainwashed into thinking that plasma guns and pew are more powerful. It's... We've just forgot. It's all right. It'll come back. Mm. I've got a lot of faith.

and, and a- and I just put it back to... I just said, "Just go back to nature. Just, just go back to your original form," and all, all that energy just dissipates. It's amazing. When nature takes over, it just, it, everything just dissipates. I think that is beautiful, and anybody that wants to try this, you do not have to, like, go on any courses for anything.

You don't need anybody else to tell you otherwise or anything else. The- they're all overlays. All overlays. All energy- They, you, you, you... It's interesting what you're talking about those different... You know, the archangels or whatever. The, the, the people who are on a, a, an ascension journey, when they, when they meet those different energies, it's good to understand what they are, but they are just a rung of a ladder.

Yeah. And actually, you can get rid of the ladder because you are the ladder. You are the ladder. You know, it's... It, it, one of the... I, I te- one of the reasons that the Treaty of Nicaea, going back to the Gnostic text, one of the reasons that the Gnostic, uh, Gospels were completely put aside is the whole point of those stories is there is, there is, there is no, there is no reason to have a church.

You know, we, we are- the spark in a, in a, in a material body. Yeah. And that's why they wanted rid of it, because you can't control people if they realize that they are- Mm-hmm ... the super consciousness on the planet. Yeah. You know, 'cause, 'cause, 'cause it is an extraordinary journey to put, you know, consciousness on, into a physical 3D world.

Yeah. That, that, that's why women are so powerful- ... 'cause they are the ones that actually form the physical bodies- Yeah ... to put the spark in. How much more incredible is that? It's amazing. You can't, you can't get any more, there is no greater technology in the universe than a woman. And then you look at, like mitochondria in every single one of our cells, and the life force, everything that comes with that.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And come to the Shine Festival. Yeah, come along. Which is where we... And then start to see... 'Cause people aren't just banging on about this stuff, right, willy-nilly, right? They've got years- No ... of experience, or they've got, they've got things to show you. But at the end of the day, nobody can tell you anything about what to believe in.

You have to experience it. And we want more people to experience their true nature, their true power. Um, these are safe spaces where we can discuss this kind of stuff. And- Yeah ... let's, let's get together. Yeah. It's, uh, one, one thing I will say about the Shine is when you come onto the field, you decompress.

So the divine- That's beautiful ... is, is somebody who's just trying to get out of that. But it's inter- you can, you can find your pathway by doing work with plants, you know, say. Or, or, or do, or doing work with, um, with breath. You know? They are totally different paths. You could, you... The Shine is just a, like a little taster of people who are passionate about their subject and who want to impart their knowledge.

I absolutely love passionate amateurs. People who are not doing it for a living, but are just absolutely on fire. You know? Yeah. It's a bit like me. I'm a passionate amateur really, 'cause I have my own life. I have a l- you know, I, I work and blah, blah, blah. But, you know, it, it, it's, it's a place to just come along and just go, "Oh, I'll just stick my head in here."

And you might hear one sentence and go, "Oh yeah, that, that, that... I get it now." Literally like a ton of bricks, you're like- Yeah ... I feel that. Yeah, it's really beautiful. I, I, I mean, I have just crazy experiences. Um, some can be really gentle. I had a dark night of the soul there couple of years ago. That was extraordinary.

I just, I lost my whole personality. I, I became no one. I literally just became no one for like 12 hours. And it was really weird, 'cause when I came to do my talk on the Sunday morning, I stood up on stage and I went, "You know what, guys? I'm, I'm not gonna do the talk that I've advertised." Yeah. 'Cause it's not authentic.

You know, the one place you actually don't wanna do that. And, and I was so calm through the whole thing. I was so calm. It wasn't crazy chaos energy. Yeah. It was, it was so pure, the energy, and I was just so zen with it all. But I, I couldn't, I could hardly speak. I was, I was not identifying with being anybody in that moment.

I was just... I was a hollow being that was just look, observing everything. It was, it was- That's really c- crazy experience ... yeah ... 'cause it can

There's information that we need to take. We don't have to, like... It's not a bad thing. It's there f- it's doing something for a reason. So we're like, "Okay, what am I doing? What's, why am I going through this process?" Um, and that is the thing when people first of all go on this journey is because all of this new stuff happens, and you just don't need to be afraid.

It's not bad. No. Not bad stuff. It's just stuff. It's interesting. I, just a quick one. Paul McKenna does this great... It's a really ancient technique. Oh, right. But it's, but it's integrated that something that it doesn't sit well with you- Right, okay ... with, with yourself. Okay. With your spirit. And, and what he says is if you've got an issue, put it in front of you, face it head-on, br- just breathe into yourself, and you will integrate whatever that is, and you can move on.

Exactly. It was extraordinary, and they were all beautiful, beautiful techniques. But this one was just... It was just like, just integrate it in that moment. It, like a, like a shamanic just, poof. Energetically- Okay, yeah ... you can just move through it. And, um, and just like you said, if you can, if you can learn to do that, it's so powerful.

Like, I believe the same as you. All this integration, all this thing, it should not be a difficult process, right? Mm-hmm. This is natural to us. It's supposed to be natural. It's not supposed to be a fight. And you know, this is where raising the consciousness of all the teacher population out there to, um, you know, move them away from this kind of...

I mean, my, what my daughter had to be taught about all sorts of different mental health issues in girls, and then the next month after, the girls developed it. It's like you're not helping. Yeah. No. So the, we need to raise the consciousness of the teachers, who then in turn can support our children properly- Mm-hmm

instead of labeling them with ADHD and... Yeah, it's crazy. I do believe that the, the, uh, the fall of every, the end times of all different cycles- Cycles ... there's, there's always... It's a bit like, um, popping a spot, really. Do you know what I mean? I know. If you wanna put it in really simple terms, but there is always- Pressure, pressure, pressure, pressure

It, it's all coming out. Yeah. It's, it's, it's a purging. It's a clearing. And, and it's not us that... We're doing our own shadow work, and we're doing our own purging- Mm-hmm ... but actually, the dark side is just... They've got nowhere to go. They've got nowhere to hide. And you will see all this craziness because it's all coming out.

Mm-hmm. It's all coming out, and it's not, it's not... It can't be hidden anymore. It can't be hidden. It's, it has to come out, and it is coming out. I mean, well, the... You know, they can't even keep it from themselves. The amount of prime ministers we've had in the last God knows how many years. Every, every time they put one in power it's like, "Oh, no, they're getting too close.

So we know who they are even before they're actually out, you know? We're well ahead of the game now, aren't we? Yeah. It's, it's, it's extraordinary, this, the, the... Everything's just glaring. Everything's like the spotlight is on all these people. They must be terrified. They must be running around like blue arse.

You know? Or delusional- So there we go ... but they think it's all fine. But whatever. Yeah. You know? Yeah. It's gonna be what it's gonna be, so- Yeah ... um, and it's gonna be amazing and powerful. And so join us, everybody, in your positive thoughts, 'cause your thoughts matter And, uh, we'd rather you be, um... You'd rather be creating the future that you wanna see.

Yeah. That's all we want, isn't it? Yeah, it's beautiful, Jo. It's beau- I'm really looking forward to having you and Kelly

at the Shine. Oh, we're looking forward to coming. It's, uh- Feels like we've gained a brother. Kelly keeps saying, "Oh, I spoke to Eli today," and it's like, oh, so there's a bit of a connection here. So we're looking forward to giving you a big hug. Well, it's really lovely, 'cause I told you the story. I came to see you guys, and unfortunately, your, your gig got canceled I think.

But we, we... I drove all the way down to Dorset, and I was just like, oh. And, and it was... I was just thinking about you guys all day. Oh. It was, it was almost like I wa- I wasn't there with you, but I was, I was there in my mind with you. Okay. You know? I'd done that journey, 'cause, um, it's, it's, it's, it's really special the work you're doing.

And, and they go, "Oh, you know what? That's really beautiful. I can do that," or, "I wanna do that." Thanks. And, and it, it, it is powerful. I think, you know, th- there's lots of people that I've met over the last six years who they are the bow of the ship, and I think you and Kelly are doing that. You're holding that space and, and forging ahead, and people are, you know, people are, are, are in that flow.

And then I've seen so many people come to the Shine who've come in my flow, and then they've got their own flow. And then they go off and do their own thing. Mm-hmm. And they become really amazing in their own right, and they just need a little bit of confidence. Yeah. You know? And this is why your, your flow- You know

is quite, it's very powerful what, what you've created with the Shine. Mm. I've, um... You know, I, I can really see the people that you've had, the caliber of people, the experience. Um, so we're really looking forward to coming to be honest with you. And, um- Mm ... it's not gonna be long. Um- No, I know. I know. It's, it's great.

It, it, it, it fell into place really, really easily 'cause, 'cause none of it's really difficult. Um, but I'm, I'm, I am genuinely really heartfelt and very grateful to all the people who are coming on that day because we've got some left brain thing going on, which is great. We've got some right brain thing going on.

We've got a lot of heart thing going on. So we've got something for everybody on the Sat- For me ... on the Saturday. Um, I'm, you know, I'm really looking forward to, uh, to, to the Saturday. Yeah, the Lion, Lions Gate. It's, it's gonna be... It's always a big one. It's a very, I think, very open, energetic space, which- Yeah

Yeah. If you see me, come and get me, because you might not see me. You know, I, I've got so much going on, but I remember being in the field and being around people or, or just, just being energetically with them, and it just felt so good that people were in their own spaces doing things. It just really made me feel...

It was just a calm, it was a stillness. It was a calmness. It was, it was a very... It was like an undercurrent of, of really powerful energy. Mm. You know? But it was very calm and very relaxed and very peaceful, very harmonious, you know? Um, and people were, people were able to be in that space, um, very openly.

That's very nice. "I, I, I can be, I can be a bigger version of myself here." And I've known her for, for quite a while, and she's never really spoken to me. She's quite meek and mild. And, uh, for her to come up to me, I was just like, "Oh my God, I can't believe you actually come- ... and spoken to me." But she did. She said, "You've, you've actually done something.

You've created a space where I can, I can feel, you know, like, of substance," you know? Yeah. That's good. But it's not... But, because that's the thing about the Shine. You see, it... Everything is a distraction, Jo. Everything is a distraction from yourself, and know thyself is the, is the thing that everybody says.

Mm-hmm. Um, and there, there is a gentle, uh, nature to that which is really, really powerful. So, you know, we do have some entertainment, for sure, and people actually come up and around the fire. You know, you get people just singing and doing amazing and beautiful things. Um, and it's very, very gentle. But it's, um- There's no outward distractions there.

You, you, you take what you want from it and you- Mm ... and you internalize it. It's a very- An opportunity to grow- It's- ... and come to... An opportunity in a safe space with people. Yeah. Um, it's, it's- It's very healing ... healing. It's very healing. There, there, there, there is a couple of people, and I'll introduce you to one of them.

Mm-hmm. Yeah, just, just those four days. It's, it's, it's not a re- I wouldn't say it's a retreat 'cause it's not intensive, but it is a space where you can just decompress- Mm-hmm ... step out of the matrix, and just, you know, ju- just be with yourself. Cool. There's no issue. There's... Yeah, it is, it is a beautiful space.

Yeah. We, uh, th- there are, there are a couple of dogs that come, but it's- it's not, it's not encouraged at all. Okay. It's very difficult. If you've got, if you've got a therapy dog, then that's fine. But other than that, it's, it's unfortunately- It's not a dog park. No. It's, it's, it's a weird one. Yeah. Right. It is a weird one.

We did, we, we have had a couple of... We did have somebody with a dog last year, I think two, I think. They are therapy dogs. Um, uh, in fact, saying that, my dog might be here this year because he's very, very unwell. Um, he's, he, I, I, I mean, I think he's eaten some grass with some pesticides or something on it.

He's, he's, he's lost the, he's lost the use of his back legs. Oh. Yeah, he's just gone lame. He's, he's getting better, but just suddenly overnight and I was just like, "Is that nervous? What is that?" Yeah, that's weird, that is. That's like- Running around like a crazy, crazy kid, and then suddenly he's got jelly legs and he can't, he can't get up the stairs and stuff.

I'm looking forward to meeting him. Perhaps Kelly can have a look at him. He, he's, he's called Cosmo. Cosmo. Cosmo, yeah. All right, Jo. Well, look, um, I, I, I've thoroughly talk, enjoyed talking to you again, and I really hope that you invite me back on your show. Um, and, and I'll, and I'll have you on my show, um, at some point I'm sure.

Yeah. Uh, you know, and, and, and we can shoot the breeze again. I think it's great to talk about these subjects. It's brilliant to bring it out into the open. Um- Bring it out in the open. Yeah. Loved it. I've loved having you on, and thank you very much for sharing. Yeah. It's fascinating conversation. We're looking forward to the Shine Festival, and I'll put details here, put the link to it, so hopefully you guys listen to it now, will come along and say hello now you know more about it and what we're about.

Bargain. Okay, I'll put that- Yeah ... in the show notes for you guys- Yeah ... that haven't picked that up. Um, so- Thank you, Jo. Thank you. Appreciate it a lot. It's been... No, it's, um, it means a lot and we're really excited to come. So thank you guys for listening to Crystal Water Experience Podcast, where I bring, um, non-mainstream conversations to, to your ears, and hopefully, uh, extend some horizons.

So- Mm ... do that. We need you. We love you, and we'll see you at The Shine Festival in a couple of weeks.